Feedback: The layers to this game

[Ningauble]

I'm not even sure I'm able to appreciate this game in a theoretical model. My friend Rawrful has explained some of the ways this game is layered to work together. But I have trouble conceptualizing it, or seeing these layers, combinations, team compositions, item choices, and abilities as coherent. I enjoy the game up to a point. I can play the game up to a point. But I spend most of my time suspicious that you have too many discordant elements, mechanics, and language to enable a player to figure out the games layers. I use the term layers to approximate a problem I have seeing any depth to this game. So far it seems like the basic pattern is get leveled so your lane isn't weak, choose a commander type, and modify your lane to support / balance the impact you have in lane. Then in the mid game you play a mostly familiar moba. Then at the end game you compare the items you built and see if you didn't counter things with the right priority. But without an item sale, and with items which try to do so many things at once, and so many tiered aspects, your juggling way too many things - or rather perhaps,

I'm not able to play this game. Assuming. There is a right way to play it. And not assuming that it doesn't just look like there is a right way to play it because of how complex the layers are - that is to say that of course once in a while it all looks rather coherently planned/decided.

[Dr_Pineapple]

There really is a lot going on in the game. There are definite advantages to being higher level, especially when it comes to army units and upgrades, but not enough to grant a win entirely. I would recommend playing a few vs ai or solo practice games and in each one, focus on something different (eg. reading proficiencies [yours and the enemies], fighting in lane, force customization, etc). Also keep talking to people who have been around a while, you might be able to learn some stuff. My in-game name is Punintelligent, feel free to add me and ask me questions, or if I'm streaming stop by and ask there.

[hangun]

also a new proficiency system is in the works right now..and i think that in that new system u gonna be able to sellback ur proficiencys

[Ningauble]

I feel somewhat like I have to go to the player base for continual explanations, sometimes of the same thing, and the game isn't communicating this information coherently enough. Each game I'm trying to figure out each layer all over again. For example the colored ability icons make sense. But more could be done, color coding the bonuses granted by each item could go a long way to threading together one layer. So if all damage bonuses were orange. If an item granted an on hit bonus the icon got an orange border.

I'm kind of reminded of Grim Dawn. Which is a really solid game, but they never quite got their User Interface polished. Abilities/Skills/Passives are not usually explained or defined up front. So for example you might have a skill description, which includes some elements of "fluff" and a description of what it does. But what it doesn't list or do is break the colorful / full description down to quickly internalized details. See my post on Nefaria's "e" description for a Supernova example.